Traders Thoughts: 8th February – Luke Gromen

Summary

Luke Gromen provided a comprehensive analysis on the macroeconomic environment, focusing on deflation, U.S. fiscal health, and potential policy responses. Here’s a summary of his three main points:

  1. Short-Term Deflation Risks vs. Long-Term Inflationary Pressures: Gromen acknowledges the possibility of a brief deflationary period in the short term, potentially triggered by a severe external shock. However, he argues that the long-term outlook is more concerned with inflationary pressures due to the U.S.’s high debt-to-GDP ratio (120%), substantial fiscal deficits (7-8% of GDP), and significant levels of U.S. dollar-denominated debt held by foreigners ($13 trillion). He suggests that any sustained deflation could disrupt the treasury market, necessitating immediate intervention by the Federal Reserve and Treasury to prevent treasury auction failures through increased dollar liquidity.

  2. Treasury Market Function and Fiscal Dominance: Gromen discusses the mechanics of potential treasury market dysfunction and the imperative for the Federal Reserve and Treasury to intervene in case of deflation. He emphasizes that past events (e.g., September 2019, March 2020, September 2022, March 2023, October 2023, November 2023) have shown the authorities’ unwillingness to allow treasury market dysfunction. This stance underpins his view that assets benefiting from currency debasement, such as stocks, real estate, Bitcoin, and gold, will remain favorable investments. He also notes the shift towards fiscal dominance, where the Federal Reserve’s actions are increasingly dictated by the need to ensure the smooth functioning of the treasury market over its traditional mandates.

  3. Implications of Rising Interest Payments and Fiscal Health: Gromen points out the critical condition of U.S. fiscal health, where interest payments now exceed national defense spending, and the ‘big three’ expenditures (entitlements, defense, interest) significantly surpass tax receipts. He argues that without a productivity miracle, significant spending cuts, or interest rate reductions, the U.S. will likely have to resort to devaluing the dollar or introducing substantial liquidity measures. He believes this fiscal situation mandates more dollar liquidity soon to avoid a repetition of risk-off scenarios driven by a strong dollar and to support his conviction in investments like gold, Bitcoin, and short-term treasuries, albeit with an expectation of continued volatility in rates and FX markets.

In summary, Gromen’s analysis suggests a complex interplay between short-term deflation risks and long-term inflationary pressures, underscored by the critical state of U.S. fiscal health and the necessity for proactive policy measures to maintain market stability and support asset classes that benefit from currency debasement.

I enjoy following Luke Gromen, he is always good entertainment and always comes with some good sound bytes. I do agree with his view that ultimately he thinks the central banks will apply YCC and print more money, thus inflating the debt away (or kicking the can down the road). He likes being long hard assets without leverage i.e. Gold, BTC, stocks with good fundamentals. Short term is harder to map out, so leave that game to the pro’s. 

Also going off his views on healthcare costs, one way to play this is get long that sector. One way that should be a steady grinder is health insurance providers. General Insurance and Health insurance companies have done really well here on the ASX

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